Saturday, September 03, 2005

Quotes From The Week

From Repent America:

"We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long"

From Asymmetrical Information:
(comment section)

"It seems to me that the poor should have had the EASIEST time leaving. They don't need to pay for an extended leave from their home, they could have just packed a few belongings and walked away to start over somewhere else. What did they have to lose? When the wealthy evacuate, they leave behind nice houses, expensive cars, possibly pets that they treat as members of the family, valuable jewelry, family heirlooms, etc. This makes it emotionally difficult for wealthy people to leave. But by definition, the poor do not have this burden: they either rent their homes, or they are in public housing; their cars are practically junk anyway; and they don't have any valuable possessions."

"In the US, the vast majority of people who are poor are poor because they CHOOSE to be poor. I recall a Cato or Heritage paper showing that something like 75% of all people living below the poverty line would be lifted above it if they just worked 40 hours a week on average."

"I just feel sorry for any white people left in that city. I saw video of some white tourists walking aimlessly, dragging their suitcases behind them, looking for help. They said they hadn't seen any police. What a nightmare...white people abandoned in a lawless city full of black people with no police in sight, and no firearms to protect themselves. You can talk all you want about how awful it is to be a racist, but they are the ones who are finding out firsthand the brutal realities of race in this country."

"Speaking purely in economic terms, the situation in New Orleans is actually quite positive, long-term. Yes there is the destruction of the port and that's bad, but consider: 80% of the population evacuated. The remaining 20% stayed, either because they didn't have the means to leave, or because they were just foolish; how much of each is a guess. But in EITHER case, you have to consider that these people were essentially surplus. In other words, the least-functional 20% of the population of New Orleans has been eliminated. That obviously INCREASES the overall functionality of the New Orleans population.I'm not blind to the fact that the people who chose to stay behind are suffering, and that's not good, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL. But all things aren't equal. Consider: normally, disasters like this have ALWAYS served to help weed out the less competent."

From Right-Thinking From the Left Coast:
(comment section)

"Some of those people look like they can do 4 days with no effect on their physique at all. I’m glad you said that, Flogg. I’ve been wanting to. I know it sounds tacky to say, but it seems like the poorest folks are always the fattest. Especially the women. All those beans and cornbread, I guess."

"I’m sure the last thing these troops ever planned on was going from one war zone right into another, but ultimately order must be restored, and if it means shooting some of the vermin who are using this disaster for their own personal gain, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. Fuck ‘em, kill ‘em all."

From Right-Wing News:

(comment section)

"Watching the films of looters I was struck by the fact they ALL seemed to be people of color. So... martial law should be invoked. We should shoot to kill looters. First, all thieves would be detered by this action. Secondly, we would be thining the ranks of Democrat voters. A win win situation."

"So the storm hits and suddenly they realize -- duh -- we have no food, we have no water, and we're in trouble. So then, if instead of looking for help or trying to move to a place where they'll have easier access to help, they kick in a door and start stealing whatever they want. I have very little sympathy for them -- even if they're taking food, water, and baby food. These people didn't prepare and if they turn to crime because of it, they deserve to be treated like exactly what they are: scumbag criminals."

"-- Looting is theft of somebody's else's goods pure and simple. That's not OK even after a hurricane.
-- Usually, a window or door has to be kicked in to get to the food. So property is being damaged beyond what's being stolen.
-- If you look the other way on looting, you will only encourage more people to act that way. If it's OK to loot food during a hurricane, how many people are going to make the LOGICAL LEAP and say, "OK, why can't I just steal 'necessities' because I want it and don't have the money to pay for it?"

""Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour had it exactly right when he said:"I have instructed the highway patrol and the National Guard to treat looters ruthlessly." Spot-on Haley, spot-on!"
That a boy, Haley. Get them niggers. Get em all. Get them sheets out people. The KKK is back. We ain't finished with them blackies. Hail Reagan! He got it right."


Anonymous tim said...

ug. that makes me sick.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Mariana said...

These people can't be representative of the majority, but only of a very small minority of mentally challenged.

7:50 PM  
Blogger Jim Bliss said...


You can find those kind of opinions in any country in the world, but the USA at this point in history does appear to have more than its fair share.

I think that may well stem from being the most powerful nation on the planet. Power almost always corrupts. The attitude represented in those quotes could almost certainly be found in abundance in Britain during the days of Empire.

I fear that America may very well stand on the brink of a disaster of its own making. New Orleans may turn out to be an horrific dress rehearsal for a much larger breakdown in the fabric of your society.

Let's just hope my fears are unfounded.

9:12 PM  
Blogger Kay said...

I try to see the best in people. I think we all have an inherent need to say that something bad that happened to another person wouldn't happen to us because of whatever tangible reason. There is still a great fear of the unknown here and even those of us with pea-sized brains want to fixate on something so we can say "that would never be me."

10:34 PM  
Blogger Carol (Smiles and Laughter) said...

OK, I'm going to be sick now.

I suppose in any group you can find at least one IDIOT.

1:36 PM  
Blogger L said...

tim: me too

Mariana: I do agree with you that they are probably a minority, but I happen to work with quite a few religious conservatives who talk like this

jim bliss: I completely agree with you that power corrupts. I have said for years that the U.S. having so much more power than everyone else is not necessarily good for American citizens

Kayten: I think that's true-- very similar to the "blame the victim" mentality when saying that rape victims were just asking for it

Carol: yep. at least it seems that the idiots (hopefully) are outnumbered by the good people.

9:40 PM  
Blogger Rainypete said...

Ahh nothing like the freedom of speech to let the nutters out is there?

2:57 PM  
Blogger L said...

rainypete: nope :p

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Lisa said...

Some people do have some interesting opinions. How insightful of them, ...and how disturbing.

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Carmi said...

Nice to see the bigots getting their soapbox dusted off in light of Katrina's devastation.

Still, I'm still trying to understand what emptying the shelves of Saks 5th Avenue has to do with survival. It isn't a color issue at all: simply one of criminals using the guise of "survival" to shield their nefarious actions.

11:05 PM  
Anonymous cesca said...

Disturbing comments for sure.

11:06 PM  
Anonymous happy and blue said...

The actual disaster was disturbing. This is sick..

11:06 PM  
Anonymous Vile File said...

An 'interesting' assortment of commentaries, L.

How nice for these writers to feel so superior when one is in no danger, has never been poor, and has no idea how difficult survival is living day-to-day when poor, much less in the face of complete disaster.

11:06 PM  
Blogger L said...

Lisa: definitely some very disturbed people out there

Carmi: that's true-- there are always bad apples in every group of people. And New Orleans, having one of the worst poverty rates in the nation (I read somewhere around 30% live below the poverty line), has had a problem with drugs and crime. But I definitely have a problem with conservatives saying that all poor people or all black people are criminals. It simply isn't true.

cesca: I work with some people who think like this

happy&blue: at least they're the minority (I hope)

Vile: I couldn't have said it better

11:06 PM  
Anonymous mr. anigans said...


i couldn't read past the first couple. i could feel the life being sucked out of me. fortunately my contacts began drying up and folding in upon themselves rendering me one step from blind.

11:06 PM  
Anonymous chitney said... This is absolute filth. I find it incredible how extreme bigots always attempt to employ such warped "logic" to justify their opinions. Opinions that are obviously based on insecurity, fear, and gross misinformation (oh my little bigots, did we forget that your great Republican monkey er--president--continues to allow for the erosion of the country's inner core, e.g. all educational and social services, while uselessly pumping money into dominating other countries for his own agenda? That might be one tiny explanation for the country's continual level of poverty. That, and minimal opportunities for minority groups since those good ol' days of slavery. But nice try blaming a certain race for wanting to stay poor. Good one. Did the coloured folks steal the job you were too lazy to keep, and break up your marriage to your sister too?).

Sure, spewing this garbage only makes the ignorant appear more stupid. But it doesn't render what they say any less disturbing. FREAKS. UGH!!!

11:07 PM  
Anonymous weary hag said...

Wow, wow and wow.
This is the first time in my entire life ( and hopefully the last ) when I've ever slightly considered the possibility that there actually is a negative side to freedom of speech.

11:07 PM  
Anonymous PeterB said...

One can only hope there is a special karmic reward for raging fucktards like the above-illustrated.

Arm-chair Limbaughs all need to be air-lifted into the most e. coli-infested cess pool in downtown New Orleans and have a train run upon them by the people they're writing about.

And it needs to be webcast. I will pay to see it.

11:07 PM  
Blogger L said...

it's hard not to get angry at such hateful people....

11:07 PM  
Anonymous confort addict said...

I can scarcely summon words for the miscreants you quote above. Strangely enough, it's only the presence of people like this that keeps me from skipping to Canada. If I leave, that's means that these yahoos will increase their already lamentable hegemony (in concert with the conservative money men and the "religious" power men) by one. Listening to these jokers makes me want to pick up a sign and picket - if I only knew where.

11:07 PM  
Blogger L said...

Comfort Addict: I've considered skipping to Canada myself occasionally, but I still believe (I hope) that these people are the minority

11:07 PM  
Anonymous Chitney said...

Ooh you guys should totally come to Canada!! I can safely say that Toronto would welcome you with open arms since you aren't of the ignorant pond scum persuasion. Believe it or not though, Toronto is one of the more liberal Canadian cities. If you go in either direction (especially west), you'll be in the heart of a flippin' Republican Rodeo. So Toronto's and its 180+ coexisting ethnicities is pretty awesome

11:08 PM  
Anonymous Chitney said...

Weary Hag: Speaking of freedom of speech, you should come to Canada too. Our legislation encourages freedom of speech, but there's a limit. The line is drawn at promoting hate. Then it's considered a hate crime and is punishable by law. So because of this caveat, we don't have to deal with crap like the KKK's disgusting public march in New York (in the late 90s I think?) advertising their "lawful right" to flaunt hatred. (Horrible.)

11:08 PM  
Blogger L said...

Chitney: Canada defintely sounds nice

11:08 PM  
Anonymous glomgold said...

Wow. What century is this?

11:08 PM  
Blogger L said...

glomgold: I'm guessing the 18th, but I could be optimistic

11:08 PM  

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